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majorshrapnel | |
Date Posted:2023-07-05 07:14:34Copy HTML This is an almost forgotten war in world events but has lasting consequences to this day. Gibraltar entered the British empire in 1704 during the war of the Spanish succession when the Royal Navy captured it from the Spanish. During its bombardment of the isthmus some 15,000 cannonballs were poured into it and when they had finished the navy, unsurprisingly just walked in. Under the treaty of Utrecht it was then ceded to the Brits. Over the centuries the strategically vital rock has come under the attention of a number of foes looking to take it for themselves but it has always prevailed and still remains under British rule to this day. It has been under some form of siege, to lesser or greater degrees since the treaty was signed but it's greatest siege lasted from 1779 to 1783. |
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majorshrapnel | Share to: #51 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2023-07-21 12:54:35Copy HTML Not my account Tom, history’s account, as it is fact that the colonies paid Britain the money they were seeking before their rebellion. |
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tommytalldog | Share to: #52 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2023-07-21 05:56:46Copy HTML Not my account Tom, history’s account, as it is fact that the colonies paid Britain the money they were seeking before their rebellion. And that was the amount GB wanted to defray the cost of saving the colonists from the French during the French & Indian War? |
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MarkUK | Share to: #53 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2023-07-21 08:47:25Copy HTML GB signed the peace treaty in 1783 before things got too bad; therefore, although a defeat, the terms were not too harsh as the victorious nations were only too glad to secure an advantageous peace against an undeniably powerful enemy. You're playing chess with Fate and Fate's winning.
Arnold Bennett
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pbandrew3rd | Share to: #54 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2023-07-22 03:01:01Copy HTML |
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pbandrew3rd | Share to: #55 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2023-07-22 03:21:03Copy HTML Hope you were able to view that last video Grey. I meet a couple of the officers speaking in that video at a Regimental re-union in Oshawa for the Ontario Regiment. John Richardson in the video mentions crossing the Aquino airport trying to take the Hitler line and losing 13 tanks. My father's tank was one of them. He was mentioned in British dispatches for going back under heavy fire and rescuing the co-driver who was frozen in his seat with fear. He had to climb up on the tank and then go in through the top hatch to get the guy out because he hadn't even opened his co-drivers hatch. He pulled him out with brute force and then put him over his shoulder and jumped to the ground with him. His arms and face and any exposed skin was burned doing it. When asked later why he went back he said, if I hadn't gone back, I would have heard that boy squealing the rest of my life. |
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pbandrew3rd | Share to: #56 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2023-07-22 03:24:07Copy HTML The video is blocked in the US because of copyright grounds. So where's all these freedom you say you guys have down there. We are probably going through a Chinese server here and it can be seen by all on YouTube |
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Greystarfish1 | Share to: #57 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2023-07-22 03:29:07Copy HTML The video is blocked in the US because of copyright grounds. So where's all these freedom you say you guys have down there. We are probably going through a Chinese server here and it can be seen by all on YouTube The US has strict copyright laws. This was wanted by the entertainment industry. |
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Greystarfish1 | Share to: #58 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2023-07-22 03:29:39Copy HTML I can see it. |
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tommytalldog | Share to: #59 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2023-07-22 05:26:47Copy HTML Your father was a true hero, Pete. |
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majorshrapnel | Share to: #60 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2023-07-22 07:04:15Copy HTML Your father was a true hero, Pete. He certainly was quite something. Makes me exceptionally proud of him, never mind Pete |
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tommytalldog | Share to: #61 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2023-07-22 08:02:17Copy HTML Your father was a true hero, Pete. He certainly was quite something. Makes me exceptionally proud of him, never mind Pete Funny that, Art. I was thinking the same thing. |
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pbandrew3rd | Share to: #62 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2023-07-23 03:46:59Copy HTML Your father was a true hero, Pete. He certainly was quite something. Makes me exceptionally proud of him, never mind Pete Funny that, Art. I was thinking the same thing. He was wounded again in August of that year when his troop pulled over to refuel their tanks on a mountainous road and after they decided to stay and rest over night. The area had been marked by the engineers where to walk and where not to. They started small fires to brew up tea and a cook and another chap got into the wine close by and one of them stepped off the mine tap and onto a German jumping mine. Of course it killed the two of them out right but the shrapnel from it spread or fanned out and a hunk of it hit my father in the head knocking him off his feet. He got back up and didn't realize he had been hit until blood started running down the side of his face coming out of the two small air holes in his beret. A couple of other guys laying down got their backs peppered with it and they were 100 feet away from the blast. A medic with them checked out my fathers wound and bandaged it up but it never got checked to wars end to see if anything went in. He was still getting head aches from it at the end of the war and had a numb spot the size of a silver dollar where the wound was. He had them check it when he was being released and sure enough he had shrapnel in it but it was too close to the brain for them to remove so he ended up carrying it with him to his grave. A question here, why would Grey mention copy right laws on videos posted on YouTube. It was a Canadian made video and it was them that posted the video on the Canadian pilot Berling? Here's a picture of one of the speaker in the Italy video. His name is Ned Amy and he started off with the Ontario Regiment and then became commanding officer of the Calgary Regiment in Italy. I meet and got to talk to him in Germany at my Regiment's Birthday. He flew over from Canada to attend and brought a whole shit load of Canadian beer with him. He's a General in this picture. |
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Greystarfish1 | Share to: #63 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2023-07-23 03:50:54Copy HTML Your father was a true hero, Pete. He certainly was quite something. Makes me exceptionally proud of him, never mind Pete Funny that, Art. I was thinking the same thing. He was wounded again in August of that year when his troop pulled over to refuel their tanks on a mountainous road and after they decided to stay and rest over night. The area had been marked by the engineers where to walk and where not to. They started small fires to brew up tea and a cook and another chap got into the wine close by and one of them stepped off the mine tap and onto a German jumping mine. Of course it killed the two of them out right but the shrapnel from it spread or fanned out and a hunk of it hit my father in the head knocking him off his feet. He got back up and didn't realize he had been hit until blood started running down the side of his face coming out of the two small air holes in his beret. A couple of other guys laying down got their backs peppered with it and they were 100 feet away from the blast. A medic with them checked out my fathers wound and bandaged it up but it never got checked to wars end to see if anything went in. He was still getting head aches from it at the end of the war and had a numb spot the size of a silver dollar where the wound was. He had them check it when he was being released and sure enough he had shrapnel in it but it was too close to the brain for them to remove so he ended up carrying it with him to his grave. A question here, why would Grey mention copy right laws on videos posted on YouTube. It was a Canadian made video and it was them that posted the video on the Canadian pilot Berling? Here's a picture of one of the speaker in the Italy video. His name is Ned Amy and he started off with the Ontario Regiment and then became commanding officer of the Calgary Regiment in Italy. I meet and got to talk to him in Germany at my Regiment's Birthday. He flew over from Canada to attend and brought a whole shit load of Canadian beer with him. He's a General in this picture. Because that is the message, that I am getting on that video. Different countries have different laws on copyright, etc. |
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pbandrew3rd | Share to: #64 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2023-07-23 03:59:59Copy HTML Here's a picture of John Richardson who I also meet at a Ontario Regimental reunion in Oshawa ON who was describing the battle at the Aquino Airport on the video. Both him and Ned Amy have passed away now. I see now that grey can see the videos. |
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pbandrew3rd | Share to: #65 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2023-07-23 04:15:42Copy HTML I noticed in the video that everyone seemed to take a stab at America's General Clark for wanting the glory of taking Rome. In my opinion, he deserved the stabs. I was only bugging you Grey about the copy right laws and they are very obvious if you try and view certain artist's music videos through You tube |
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MarkUK | Share to: #66 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2023-07-23 07:30:51Copy HTML Similar here, I can't see #54 but I can see #56. You're playing chess with Fate and Fate's winning.
Arnold Bennett
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tommytalldog | Share to: #67 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2023-07-23 11:16:01Copy HTML Your father was a true hero, Pete. He certainly was quite something. Makes me exceptionally proud of him, never mind Pete Funny that, Art. I was thinking the same thing. He was wounded again in August of that year when his troop pulled over to refuel their tanks on a mountainous road and after they decided to stay and rest over night. The area had been marked by the engineers where to walk and where not to. They started small fires to brew up tea and a cook and another chap got into the wine close by and one of them stepped off the mine tap and onto a German jumping mine. Of course it killed the two of them out right but the shrapnel from it spread or fanned out and a hunk of it hit my father in the head knocking him off his feet. He got back up and didn't realize he had been hit until blood started running down the side of his face coming out of the two small air holes in his beret. A couple of other guys laying down got their backs peppered with it and they were 100 feet away from the blast. A medic with them checked out my fathers wound and bandaged it up but it never got checked to wars end to see if anything went in. He was still getting head aches from it at the end of the war and had a numb spot the size of a silver dollar where the wound was. He had them check it when he was being released and sure enough he had shrapnel in it but it was too close to the brain for them to remove so he ended up carrying it with him to his grave. A question here, why would Grey mention copy right laws on videos posted on YouTube. It was a Canadian made video and it was them that posted the video on the Canadian pilot Berling? Here's a picture of one of the speaker in the Italy video. His name is Ned Amy and he started off with the Ontario Regiment and then became commanding officer of the Calgary Regiment in Italy. I meet and got to talk to him in Germany at my Regiment's Birthday. He flew over from Canada to attend and brought a whole shit load of Canadian beer with him. He's a General in this picture. Because that is the message, that I am getting on that video. Different countries have different laws on copyright, etc. Those "Bouncing Betty" mines were evil & effective. |
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tommytalldog | Share to: #68 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2023-07-23 11:20:17Copy HTML I noticed in the video that everyone seemed to take a stab at America's General Clark for wanting the glory of taking Rome. In my opinion, he deserved the stabs. I was only bugging you Grey about the copy right laws and they are very obvious if you try and view certain artist's music videos through You tube Yes, many if not most of the Generals in all armies have giant egos. That was beauty of Ike being Supreme Allied Commander.............keeping all of those egos in check for the final result. |
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majorshrapnel | Share to: #69 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2023-07-23 12:33:44Copy HTML I noticed in the video that everyone seemed to take a stab at America's General Clark for wanting the glory of taking Rome. In my opinion, he deserved the stabs. I was only bugging you Grey about the copy right laws and they are very obvious if you try and view certain artist's music videos through You tube Yes, many if not most of the Generals in all armies have giant egos. That was beauty of Ike being Supreme Allied Commander.............keeping all of those egos in check for the final result. Without having one himself. |
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tommytalldog | Share to: #70 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2023-07-23 12:51:27Copy HTML I noticed in the video that everyone seemed to take a stab at America's General Clark for wanting the glory of taking Rome. In my opinion, he deserved the stabs. I was only bugging you Grey about the copy right laws and they are very obvious if you try and view certain artist's music videos through You tube Yes, many if not most of the Generals in all armies have giant egos. That was beauty of Ike being Supreme Allied Commander.............keeping all of those egos in check for the final result. Without having one himself. Now Major, we all have egos eh? You know the "mine is bigger than yours" thingy. BTW Major, I have to thank you for these years of lessons re: Brit Speak. On another site some chap told be to "sod off" & thanks to you I knew what he meant. |
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majorshrapnel | Share to: #71 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2023-07-23 03:39:48Copy HTML Get his name and we'll gang up on him |
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MarkUK | Share to: #72 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2023-07-23 07:28:26Copy HTML Let's not be hasty, Tommy may have said something worthy of the instruction to "sod off", we have to know the facts. You're playing chess with Fate and Fate's winning.
Arnold Bennett
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tommytalldog | Share to: #73 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2023-07-23 11:25:08Copy HTML I succeeded in winding him up so I deserved it. |
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pbandrew3rd | Share to: #74 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2023-07-23 11:58:15Copy HTML Similar here, I can't see #54 but I can see #56. Can you go directly to You-tube and see it there Mark, not through this site. . Just enter the text at the top of the video and see what happens when you enter it at you-tube. It is thought that it was the British that sabotaged his aircraft that killed him in the end. He was going to Israel to offer his serves in 1949 to fly for them. |
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pbandrew3rd | Share to: #75 |
Re:The great siege of Gibraltar. Date Posted:2024-04-17 03:46:26Copy HTML Pretty much, he was the final product of Habsburg inbreeding. He lived to 39 even so. Not exactly Robert Redford. He could pass easily for a West Virginian or a New Yorker. His parents should have left him on the bed sheets. |