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The division here between the "Trumpies" & the rest of us is ever widening. I basically agree with Mark & consider the speech Trump gave before the violence as a cover your ass window dressing thingy. As a moderate Republican for life, my credo is we have to get away from Trump & his endless "stolen election" drivel. It is wearing thin.
I agree Tommy,I have been trying to point this out for months. Trump and the Trump for ever crowd are dragging the whole party down to now there is getting to be too much in fighting between the moderates and the far right.
Best scenario is some Republican front-runner gets Trump's endorsement. Of course that won't happen when Trump decides to run.
But I don't agree with this part Tommy and watch what you wish for because who ever Trump endorsement goes to, won't be a moderate and will do nothing for the party but bring it down further. The world lost faith in one Trump, and a second one isn't going to improve it.
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It's either Trump or DeSantis and the US needs one or the other badly. There are other Repubs I really admire, Cruz, Jordan, Kennedy but I don't see them running. As for the election, a film has just been released called 2000 mules which covers the stolen election.
Geez Art, you picked every sick puppy in the whole dam litter, America will never be able to afford the Vet bills. Their all Trumpers and the world doesn't need another one of them for 4 years. Like what Tommy says, they need a moderate with his head on straight because the majority of the party are moderates. I think if you take a close look at last election there was a lot of party moderates that turned their backs on Trump and either didn't show up to vote or voted for someone else.
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When I heard of a film called 2000 Mules I thought I'd watch it as it I thought it was about the sinking of the SS Armenian in 1915 which was carrying hundreds (1400 in fact) mules across the English Channel to France. Then I found out it was some nonsense about the 2020 Election.
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The division here between the "Trumpies" & the rest of us is ever widening. I basically agree with Mark & consider the speech Trump gave before the violence as a cover your ass window dressing thingy. As a moderate Republican for life, my credo is we have to get away from Trump & his endless "stolen election" drivel. It is wearing thin.
I agree Tommy,I have been trying to point this out for months. Trump and the Trump for ever crowd are dragging the whole party down to now there is getting to be too much in fighting between the moderates and the far right.
Best scenario is some Republican front-runner gets Trump's endorsement. Of course that won't happen when Trump decides to run.
But I don't agree with this part Tommy and watch what you wish for because who ever Trump endorsement goes to, won't be a moderate and will do nothing for the party but bring it down further. The world lost faith in one Trump, and a second one isn't going to improve it.
Pete, here is my reasoning for a Trump endorsement. You don't realize how many Trumpies there are down here. If Trump endorses a Republican who is popular & moderate it will eliminate a split vote or prevent the Trumpies from staying home in protest & give the election to the Dems again. Problem is Trump would never do that as he is too into himself if he indeed does run again.
BTW I voted in our local school board election & school budget today. On Monday I am going to a local political meeting of Trumpies where I feel like a salmon swimming upstream. Will post a synopsis of the meeting afterwards.
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The division here between the "Trumpies" & the rest of us is ever widening. I basically agree with Mark & consider the speech Trump gave before the violence as a cover your ass window dressing thingy. As a moderate Republican for life, my credo is we have to get away from Trump & his endless "stolen election" drivel. It is wearing thin.
I agree Tommy,I have been trying to point this out for months. Trump and the Trump for ever crowd are dragging the whole party down to now there is getting to be too much in fighting between the moderates and the far right.
Best scenario is some Republican front-runner gets Trump's endorsement. Of course that won't happen when Trump decides to run.
But I don't agree with this part Tommy and watch what you wish for because who ever Trump endorsement goes to, won't be a moderate and will do nothing for the party but bring it down further. The world lost faith in one Trump, and a second one isn't going to improve it.
Pete, here is my reasoning for a Trump endorsement. You don't realize how many Trumpies there are down here. If Trump endorses a Republican who is popular & moderate it will eliminate a split vote or prevent the Trumpies from staying home in protest & give the election to the Dems again. Problem is Trump would never do that as he is too into himself if he indeed does run again.
BTW I voted in our local school board election & school budget today. On Monday I am going to a local political meeting of Trumpies where I feel like a salmon swimming upstream. Will post a synopsis of the meeting afterwards.
I don't know Tommy, I need a laugh so video tape the Trumpies thing if you can with your phone. I agree Trump will never endorse anyone with both feet on the ground. Make sure your armed when you attend the political meeting. You don't have to wear one of those silly Red Ball Caps to get in, do you? Also don't go in the Stang or you might look out of place. Take the 1/2 ton and don't forget to make sure those "Trump forever" bumper sticks are visable because you don't want to look like the odd one out in the parking lot.
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Funny you mention that. They sell Trump bumper stickers, Let's Go Brandon signs & the like, but no recording the meetings allowed. If caught you are forever shunned, almost like the Amish do.
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Funny you mention that. They sell Trump bumper stickers, Let's Go Brandon signs & the like, but no recording the meetings allowed. If caught you are forever shunned, almost like the Amish do.
Sounds more like a Clan meeting to me if your not allowed to record the meeting. Seems like they have something to hide by not letting anyone record. Would it be the lies they are telling or that they are asking for donations every 5 minutes when a new speaker takes the mic. When they ask for donations just tell them you lost your wallet and then stand up quick and say, did anyone here find it and look around the room as if you might find it in the crowd? Myself, then I would say out loud, Geez I had a thousand dollars in it to donate so will have to wait till next meeting now to give donate. Now if that happened in Canada at a Liberal meeting, everyone in the crowd would be donating more than they would have, just to make up your lose and them bringing you the free coffee and donuts served at the end of the meeting right to your seat.
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Two members of the electoral college from Wisconsin filed a lawsuit Tuesday against 10 Republicans who claimed they were the duly elected presidential electors from the state in 2020, even though Joe Biden won the popular vote there. It appeared to be the first legal action against Republicans in the battleground states where supporters of former President Donald Trump sent in what they claimed were electoral votes for him, despite Biden’s statewide electoral victories. Trump urged Vice President Mike Pence to honor the Republican slates on Jan. 6 when Congress met to count the electoral votes, but Pence declined to do so. The lawsuit, filed in state court in Wisconsin, argues that even though the Republicans were unsuccessful in having their alternate slate of electoral votes counted, “they caused significant harm simply by trying, and there is every reason to believe that they will try again if given the opportunity.” The suit alleges that the Republican electors violated several state and federal laws. “Thus far, however, none of the fraudulent electors has been held accountable," it reads. "This lawsuit seeks to change that.” Certificates purporting to be from Trump electors were sent to Washington by Republicans in Wisconsin and six other states — Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, New Mexico, Nevada and Pennsylvania. Because Biden won the popular vote in those winner-take-all states, only electoral votes for him could officially be submitted and counted.
The submissions from New Mexico and Pennsylvania contained a disclaimer saying the electoral votes should be counted if courts later determined that they were, in fact, the qualified electors from their states. No such court determinations were ever made. The lawsuit filed Tuesday in Wisconsin alleges the Republicans had no legal power to take any of the actions they pursued after Biden was declared the winner. They had no authority to meet at the state Capitol, cast their votes for Trump, or send a certificate of those votes to Washington, the suit states. The lawsuit on behalf of the Wisconsin presidential electors was filed by the Institute for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection at Georgetown University in Washington, D.C., and Law Forward, a public interest law firm in Madison. Attorneys general from Michigan and New Mexico earlier this year referred the results of their own investigations to the Justice Department and suggested that submitting the Trump slates might have violated federal law. Lisa Monaco, the deputy attorney general, has said the allegations are under review. Separately, the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol riot is looking into whether there was a coordinated plan to send in the Trump electoral votes from those seven states. It has issued subpoenas to Republicans involved in the effort. “We’re seeking records and testimony from former campaign officials and other individuals in various states who we believe have relevant information about the planning and implementation of those plans,” said the committee’s chairman, Rep. Bennie Thompson, a Democrat of Mississippi.
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Voters Send Madison Cawthorn Home to Think About What He Did
The once-promising political career of Rep. Madison Cawthorn has collapsed as shockingly as it began, after Republican voters in North Carolina’s 11th District rejected his reelection bid and instead voted for prominent state Sen. Chuck Edwards to be the GOP nominee in November’s election. Shortly before midnight, the Associated Press called the race, with Edwards garnering more than 33 percent of the vote and Cawthorn getting just under 32 percent. Before the race was called on Tuesday night, multiple news outlets reported that Cawthorn called Edwards to concede. In a tweet, Cawthorn congratulated Edwards and said it was time for the GOP to “rally behind the Republican ticket to defeat the Democrats’ nominee this November.” That means the onetime rising GOP star will be out of a job come January 2023, having spent just a single term representing this swath of western North Carolina. Cawthorn's loss represents a massive victory for the state’s GOP establishment, which launched a brutal and expensive campaign to take down Cawthorn, after the 26-year old firebrand made a few missteps too many. One down Tommy and a lot more to go.
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Will all the mass shootings here in the wild west, our eye has been taken off the the really important topic. Roe v Wade & the leaking of the Supreme Court's draft. Prohibition as we have seen with alcohol does not work, & the progressive crowd is worried that abortion will now be deemed illegal & with all the horrors that will bring. You know the coat hanger thingy. Going back to my R.C. days I have the answer that the nuns taught. The only legitimate sexual expression is between a married hetero-sexual couple not using birth control. All else is sin. Monty Python simplified it with "Every Sperm Is Sacred."
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As I have previously stated, I am not against all abortions, just the alternative to plain old contraception variety, or murder, as I like to call it. By the way, how much is an abortion in the States? Sounds to me like it's akin to buying a loaf.
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As I have previously stated, I am not against all abortions, just the alternative to plain old contraception variety, or murder, as I like to call it. By the way, how much is an abortion in the States? Sounds to me like it's akin to buying a loaf.
Dunno, probably like in Canuckistan you know "FREE."
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Voters Send Madison Cawthorn Home to Think About What He Did
The once-promising political career of Rep. Madison Cawthorn has collapsed as shockingly as it began, after Republican voters in North Carolina’s 11th District rejected his reelection bid and instead voted for prominent state Sen. Chuck Edwards to be the GOP nominee in November’s election. Shortly before midnight, the Associated Press called the race, with Edwards garnering more than 33 percent of the vote and Cawthorn getting just under 32 percent. Before the race was called on Tuesday night, multiple news outlets reported that Cawthorn called Edwards to concede. In a tweet, Cawthorn congratulated Edwards and said it was time for the GOP to “rally behind the Republican ticket to defeat the Democrats’ nominee this November.” That means the onetime rising GOP star will be out of a job come January 2023, having spent just a single term representing this swath of western North Carolina. Cawthorn's loss represents a massive victory for the state’s GOP establishment, which launched a brutal and expensive campaign to take down Cawthorn, after the 26-year old firebrand made a few missteps too many. One down Tommy and a lot more to go.
OK Pete, to set the record straight according to MSNBC. Trump's record of endorsements for yesterday's primaries is:
Won 15 Lost 2 Undecided 1
Unwad your panties if you can.
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Voters Send Madison Cawthorn Home to Think About What He Did
The once-promising political career of Rep. Madison Cawthorn has collapsed as shockingly as it began, after Republican voters in North Carolina’s 11th District rejected his reelection bid and instead voted for prominent state Sen. Chuck Edwards to be the GOP nominee in November’s election. Shortly before midnight, the Associated Press called the race, with Edwards garnering more than 33 percent of the vote and Cawthorn getting just under 32 percent. Before the race was called on Tuesday night, multiple news outlets reported that Cawthorn called Edwards to concede. In a tweet, Cawthorn congratulated Edwards and said it was time for the GOP to “rally behind the Republican ticket to defeat the Democrats’ nominee this November.” That means the onetime rising GOP star will be out of a job come January 2023, having spent just a single term representing this swath of western North Carolina. Cawthorn's loss represents a massive victory for the state’s GOP establishment, which launched a brutal and expensive campaign to take down Cawthorn, after the 26-year old firebrand made a few missteps too many. One down Tommy and a lot more to go.
OK Pete, to set the record straight according to MSNBC. Trump's record of endorsements for yesterday's primaries is:
Won 15 Lost 2 Undecided 1
Unwad your panties if you can.
You failed to mention that Trump never endorsed anyone who told the truth about the 2020 election, only straight out liars. If that's the kind of people you want leading you country then good luck. It seems the Republicans aren't just liars but cheats. When you start rigging elections so only you can win it shows the world the all time low American has reached and has given up being able to call itself a Democrocy. World leaders? My ass. What ever happened to the phrase, lead by example. America has dropped the ball on it's 4th down.
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The record is still the record, 15-2-1. You can drivel it up with minutia but it still stands. Try to stay on point if possible.
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Will all the mass shootings here in the wild west, our eye has been taken off the the really important topic. Roe v Wade & the leaking of the Supreme Court's draft. Prohibition as we have seen with alcohol does not work, & the progressive crowd is worried that abortion will now be deemed illegal & with all the horrors that will bring. You know the coat hanger thingy. Going back to my R.C. days I have the answer that the nuns taught. The only legitimate sexual expression is between a married hetero-sexual couple not using birth control. All else is sin. Monty Python simplified it with "Every Sperm Is Sacred."
Your State is pro choice Tommy and you know it. Your also living close to Canada and when the lines get too long for the girls to wait to have an abortion in your State because the girls from the south have filled all the spots, you could probably take on a small part time job esorting them across the border. You will probably have to sell the Stang and get yourself a Van because the demand for the services will be high.
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The record is still the record, 15-2-1. You can drivel it up with minutia but it still stands. Try to stay on point if possible.
I am on point, it's just America that isn't.
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The record is still the record, 15-2-1. You can drivel it up with minutia but it still stands. Try to stay on point if possible.
I am on point, it's just America that isn't.
Further to the last: A Trump endorsed candidate who was at the January 6th Capital protest has won his primary.
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The record is still the record, 15-2-1. You can drivel it up with minutia but it still stands. Try to stay on point if possible.
I am on point, it's just America that isn't.
Further to the last: A Trump endorsed candidate who was at the January 6th Capital protest has won his primary.
Trump still has incredible influence in the GOP & American politics. Not good unless he stays in the background which is not likely.
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The record is still the record, 15-2-1. You can drivel it up with minutia but it still stands. Try to stay on point if possible.
I am on point, it's just America that isn't.
Further to the last: A Trump endorsed candidate who was at the January 6th Capital protest has won his primary.
I know, why do you think I brought up the subject in the first place. Maybe he won't get excepted if he charged with the Jan 6th conspirators. What happens if he's found guilty? Does a convicted criminal still get a seat in your Government??
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The record is still the record, 15-2-1. You can drivel it up with minutia but it still stands. Try to stay on point if possible.
I am on point, it's just America that isn't.
Further to the last: A Trump endorsed candidate who was at the January 6th Capital protest has won his primary.
I know, why do you think I brought up the subject in the first place. Maybe he won't get excepted if he charged with the Jan 6th conspirators. What happens if he's found guilty? Does a convicted criminal still get a seat in your Government??
Depends on the crime, a felony no. To cut to the chase on this topic. The Republican National Committee wants candidates that can win in the election. Trump just wants candidates that will carry water for him like the stolen election nonsense. Therein lies the problem.
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The record is still the record, 15-2-1. You can drivel it up with minutia but it still stands. Try to stay on point if possible.
I am on point, it's just America that isn't.
Further to the last: A Trump endorsed candidate who was at the January 6th Capital protest has won his primary.
I know, why do you think I brought up the subject in the first place. Maybe he won't get excepted if he charged with the Jan 6th conspirators. What happens if he's found guilty? Does a convicted criminal still get a seat in your Government??
Depends on the crime, a felony no. To cut to the chase on this topic. The Republican National Committee wants candidates that can win in the election. Trump just wants candidates that will carry water for him like the stolen election nonsense. Therein lies the problem.
I can see that Tommy and it's as clear as day but than doesn't mean it doesn't unset me to be happening.
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I can compare it to a top runner in the Olympics running for his country and knowing before hand that he won't pass the drug test if he wins. Best for him to run the race but them finish behind the medal spots because he knows he won't just enbarrass himself and his team mates but his whole country in front of the world when he fails the piss test. So yes you want to win but then you have to say at what cost to the country.
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It's been revealed that 49% of Biden's 40,000,000 twitter subscribers are fake accounts.
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The record is still the record, 15-2-1. You can drivel it up with minutia but it still stands. Try to stay on point if possible.
I am on point, it's just America that isn't.
Further to the last: A Trump endorsed candidate who was at the January 6th Capital protest has won his primary.
Yes and the moderate Republicans are hoping he will lose to the Demo because if he gets in, he can't be trusted not to dicky with the 2024 election results. Your talking about one State over aren't you Tommy. Starts with P.
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