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MarkUK | |
Date Posted:2023-04-28 02:41:41Copy HTML With the coronation coming up it's only right that we should have a page devoted to HM King Charles III. Although the coronation is billed as a slimmed down affair I trust it will be a grand enough spectacle. It's what most of us want, ignore the mean-spirited anti-Monarchists and those whining about cost. As someone in The Daily Telegraph said last week, we want snaggle-toothed Lords in full ermine! Judging by the list of ancient traditions being observed we'll see individuals carrying St Edward's Staff, the sceptre with dove (eh?), the Sword of Offering, the Sword of Spiritual Justice, the Sword of Temporal Justice, the Sword of Mercy and the spurs (eh? again) among other arcane things. Lovely stuff, bring it on! With King Charles' desire for inclusivity and diversity (yawn) we'll see a disproportionately large number of ethnics involved in the ceremony, but that's the world we live in now. You're playing chess with Fate and Fate's winning.
Arnold Bennett
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tommytalldog | Share to: #51 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-08 05:15:45Copy HTML Mark, just read about Queen Anne. It was better & more dramatic than a soap opera. Twelve still born children, distant relationship with father & sister, in & out of the line of succession, illness, deaths of so many in her family, lesbian relationships, & the first Queen after the union. Please advise. |
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MarkUK | Share to: #52 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-08 05:50:26Copy HTML Rather a tragic figure. 18 pregnancies of which 13 ended in miscarriages or stillbirths, of her five live born children four died in infancy with one son living to just the age of 11. Certainly distant from her father as she and her sister Mary accepted and even connived in his removal as King, without it neither would have gained the Throne. Lesbianism has been alleged over her relationship with Sarah Churchill, but that's all it was, a close friendship from a lonely woman. She died aged 49 from dropsy having become overweight. The 2018 film The Favourite is a highly fictionalised account of her relationship with women. You're playing chess with Fate and Fate's winning.
Arnold Bennett
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tommytalldog | Share to: #53 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-08 05:58:02Copy HTML Rather a tragic figure. 18 pregnancies of which 13 ended in miscarriages or stillbirths, of her five live born children four died in infancy with one son living to just the age of 11. Certainly distant from her father as she and her sister Mary accepted and even connived in his removal as King, without it neither would have gained the Throne. Lesbianism has been alleged over her relationship with Sarah Churchill, but that's all it was, a close friendship from a lonely woman. She died aged 49 from dropsy having become overweight. The 2018 film The Favourite is a highly fictionalised account of her relationship with women. The piece I read mentioned that Sarah Churchill was Mary's mentor & after a falling out it was she who accused Mary of a lesbian relationship with Abigail Hill? Not sure of the last name. Sounds the "Hell hath no fury" quote. |
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tommytalldog | Share to: #54 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-08 06:06:10Copy HTML Mark, you mentioned The Favourite being highly fictionalized. The Crown showed Prince Charles as a lazy doofus & a weak load to inherit the crown. In his book, The Spare, Harry had numerous disparaging comments on his father for sure, but claimed that Charles was a "worker" with attention to detail. |
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MarkUK | Share to: #55 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-08 06:06:59Copy HTML Mark, tell us about the Queen's cousins, Katherine & Nerissa. Nerissa born in 1919 and Katherine born in 1926 were the daughters of John Bowes-Lyon, her mother's elder brother. They were mentally sub-normal and lived in a private asylum together from 1941. The scandal you're hinting at concerns the fact that in Burke's Peerage they were listed as having died, Nerissa in 1940 and Katherine in 1961. But in 1987 it was revealed that Katherine was still alive in Earlswood Hospital and that Nerissa had only died the previous year. Stories of family neglect naturally followed and allegations of hiding away embarrassing relatives. Their madness, if that's what it was, was probably inherited from their mother's side as three of their female cousins also resided at Earlswood. Katherine died in 2014. Going back to the Empress Elizabeth of Austria, I can find no other eccentricities other than her extreme dieting and love of exercise to maintain her youth and figure. |
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MarkUK | Share to: #56 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-08 06:13:04Copy HTML Mark, you mentioned The Favourite being highly fictionalized. The Crown showed Prince Charles as a lazy doofus & a weak load to inherit the crown. In his book, The Spare, Harry had numerous disparaging comments on his father for sure, but claimed that Charles was a "worker" with attention to detail. It's a worry over here that some Americans see The Crown as a factual account rather than a fictional drama with actual events highly sensationalized and the gaps filled in with even more sensational happenings. |
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MarkUK | Share to: #57 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-08 06:23:45Copy HTML Rather a tragic figure. 18 pregnancies of which 13 ended in miscarriages or stillbirths, of her five live born children four died in infancy with one son living to just the age of 11. Certainly distant from her father as she and her sister Mary accepted and even connived in his removal as King, without it neither would have gained the Throne. Lesbianism has been alleged over her relationship with Sarah Churchill, but that's all it was, a close friendship from a lonely woman. She died aged 49 from dropsy having become overweight. The 2018 film The Favourite is a highly fictionalised account of her relationship with women. The piece I read mentioned that Sarah Churchill was Mary's mentor & after a falling out it was she who accused Mary of a lesbian relationship with Abigail Hill? Not sure of the last name. Sounds the "Hell hath no fury" quote. I can't find any connection between Mary, Anne's sister and Abigail Hill. They may have met as Abigail came to the attention of Sarah Churchill, Mary's close friend, around 1691, Mary died in 1694, some time after that Abigail entered Princess Anne's Household at Sarah's suggestion. |
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tommytalldog | Share to: #58 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-08 06:47:17Copy HTML Mark, you mentioned The Favourite being highly fictionalized. The Crown showed Prince Charles as a lazy doofus & a weak load to inherit the crown. In his book, The Spare, Harry had numerous disparaging comments on his father for sure, but claimed that Charles was a "worker" with attention to detail. It's a worry over here that some Americans see The Crown as a factual account rather than a fictional drama with actual events highly sensationalized and the gaps filled in with even more sensational happenings. Therein lies the problem. I look at everything with jaded eye, but I must admit, I was glued to every episode of The Crown. Most Americans I know had the same curious interest in the royals. Can't seem to get enough of the drama & can't wait for future revelations of some "goodies." |
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tommytalldog | Share to: #59 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-08 06:52:25Copy HTML Mark, tell us about the Queen's cousins, Katherine & Nerissa. Nerissa born in 1919 and Katherine born in 1926 were the daughters of John Bowes-Lyon, her mother's elder brother. They were mentally sub-normal and lived in a private asylum together from 1941. The scandal you're hinting at concerns the fact that in Burke's Peerage they were listed as having died, Nerissa in 1940 and Katherine in 1961. But in 1987 it was revealed that Katherine was still alive in Earlswood Hospital and that Nerissa had only died the previous year. Stories of family neglect naturally followed and allegations of hiding away embarrassing relatives. Their madness, if that's what it was, was probably inherited from their mother's side as three of their female cousins also resided at Earlswood. Katherine died in 2014. Going back to the Empress Elizabeth of Austria, I can find no other eccentricities other than her extreme dieting and love of exercise to maintain her youth and figure. Yes, some of her unusual beauty practices included sleeping face down in some concoction containing berries was mentioned in the piece I read. |
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MarkUK | Share to: #60 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-08 08:33:51Copy HTML She met a tragic end when she was stabbed to death by an Italian anarchist. You're playing chess with Fate and Fate's winning.
Arnold Bennett
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tommytalldog | Share to: #61 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-09 11:41:32Copy HTML Just read a piece on Maude of Wales. How come we have never heard of these royals before? Mark please advise. |
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majorshrapnel | Share to: #62 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-09 12:08:31Copy HTML Never heard of her. It’s more of a washerwoman’s name than a royal one. |
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tommytalldog | Share to: #63 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-09 12:22:20Copy HTML Major, granddaughter of Queen Victoria, arranged marriage with a royal from Denmark. Wound up being Queen of Norway, had a son by artificial insemination with the sperm of her doctor's son. |
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MarkUK | Share to: #64 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-09 01:08:46Copy HTML Princess Maud (1869-1938) youngest daughter of Edward, Prince of Wales (later King Edward VII). She married Prince Carl of Denmark in 1896 who was elected King of the newly independent Norway in 1905 taking the title Haakon VII. Their only child was a son Alexander born in 1903, when his father changed his name in 1905 he also changed his infant son's to Olav. Never heard the artificial insemination story, I suppose it came about with the seven year gap between marriage and child, such gaps can give rise to tales of impotency etc. She died unexpectedly in London in 1938 aged 68 a few days after abdominal surgery.
You're playing chess with Fate and Fate's winning.
Arnold Bennett
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tommytalldog | Share to: #65 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-09 01:31:10Copy HTML The dates of her marriage, her husband's absence due to his naval duties, & her pregnancy did not add up. Maude was treated by her doctor in London, Sir Francis Laking, who artificially inseminated her using the sperm of his son Sir Guy Laking. Or so the rumor goes. Prior to her arranged marriage Maude was hot on her cousin, Sir Francis of Teck. Just another royal cousin thingy with a bunch of "Sirs." |
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tommytalldog | Share to: #66 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-09 01:49:29Copy HTML Queen Isabella
The "She Wolf" of Europe , had knights castrated & then drawn & quartered. Seems she had some kind of personality disorder. |
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MarkUK | Share to: #67 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-09 02:41:46Copy HTML The dates of her marriage, her husband's absence due to his naval duties, & her pregnancy did not add up. Maude was treated by her doctor in London, Sir Francis Laking, who artificially inseminated her using the sperm of his son Sir Guy Laking. Or so the rumor goes. Prior to her arranged marriage Maude was hot on her cousin, Sir Francis of Teck. Just another royal cousin thingy with a bunch of "Sirs." No such person as Sir Francis of Teck. I assume you mean Prince Francis of Teck GCVO, his knighthood is indicated by his award of the GCVO no need use the word Sir. He was a bit wild and his death at the age of 40 in 1910 led to the practice still in force today in which Royal wills are not made public. It's said he left the Teck family jewels to his mistress which his sister Queen Mary, wife of King George V, bought back. |
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MarkUK | Share to: #68 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-09 02:46:45Copy HTML Queen Isabella
The "She Wolf" of Europe , had knights castrated & then drawn & quartered. Seems she had some kind of personality disorder. Daughter of Philippe IV of France and wife of Edward II of England. She's cropped up recently in a few posts as the scheming Queen and lover of the Earl of March at the end of her husband's reign whom they forced to abdicate and later murdered. |
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majorshrapnel | Share to: #69 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-09 03:46:38Copy HTML Major, granddaughter of Queen Victoria, arranged marriage with a royal from Denmark. Wound up being Queen of Norway, had a son by artificial insemination with the sperm of her doctor's son. When you say artificial, you mean not by her husband? |
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tommytalldog | Share to: #70 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-09 06:58:37Copy HTML The dates of her marriage, her husband's absence due to his naval duties, & her pregnancy did not add up. Maude was treated by her doctor in London, Sir Francis Laking, who artificially inseminated her using the sperm of his son Sir Guy Laking. Or so the rumor goes. Prior to her arranged marriage Maude was hot on her cousin, Sir Francis of Teck. Just another royal cousin thingy with a bunch of "Sirs." No such person as Sir Francis of Teck. I assume you mean Prince Francis of Teck GCVO, his knighthood is indicated by his award of the GCVO no need use the word Sir. He was a bit wild and his death at the age of 40 in 1910 led to the practice still in force today in which Royal wills are not made public. It's said he left the Teck family jewels to his mistress which his sister Queen Mary, wife of King George V, bought back. That's the feller. Delete Sir add initials. |
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shula | Share to: #71 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-09 10:16:58Copy HTML Isabella's "disorder" was driven by her husband, in my opinion. While she never would have been "my person", in her defense, she got a raw deal with her marriage to Edward II.
"It is forbidden to spit on cats in plague-time."
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tommytalldog | Share to: #72 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-09 10:33:06Copy HTML Isabella's "disorder" was driven by her husband, in my opinion. While she never would have been "my person", in her defense, she got a raw deal with her marriage to Edward II. She married a King & got a raw deal, Shula? Please advise. |
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pbandrew3rd | Share to: #73 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-09 11:07:03Copy HTML Well, Tom may want to bring me in for questioning -- my sanity. I am leaving the television on all night tuned to the channel showing the coronation which apparently begins at 4:00 a.m here in the Colonies. I'm sure I'll wake up around that time. I was up and watched it Shula. Only one thing bothered me and that was when the King and Queen came out on the balcony and waved to the masses with their crowns on making them look more like court jesters than my King and Queen. Nice crowns but terrible fitting. The weight may have had something to do with it. Had to smile at the young lad 3rd in line to be King. He yawned through the whole Church service. Over all a good turn out by the masses that showed up from all over the world. Was surprised how many were Americans. They came by the plane load apparently. Only one thing that bothers you Pete? Pictures of foreigner's on your $ is okay eh? You keep forgetting Tommy that the Royals are also Canada's Royals and we would rather have their pictures on our money than Trump's picture. |
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tommytalldog | Share to: #74 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-10 12:55:24Copy HTML Well Pete, there you go again. We have Benjamin Franklin on ours. |
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MarkUK | Share to: #75 |
Re:King Charles III Date Posted:2023-05-10 02:11:33Copy HTML Isabella's "disorder" was driven by her husband, in my opinion. While she never would have been "my person", in her defense, she got a raw deal with her marriage to Edward II. She married a King & got a raw deal, Shula? Please advise. He was suspected of being homosexual, he certainly had male favourites, but also fathered four children by Isabella plus one illegitimate son. Personally I think the homosexual accusation was used to make the act of forcing him to abdicate appear justified. He was a weak ruler in other ways too, being defeated by the Scots thereby undoing all his father's work and suffering a major revolt at home before the final revolt that unseated him. |