Trump was saying that instead of sending our people to fight wars, the war mongers like Liz Cheney, etc. should be made to fight the wars. If this had happened years ago, the US would not be sending our people to fight and die in endless wars.

That's logical Grey, but is there a deeper meaning here as well with the verbiage he used? 

Trump meant that Cheney, etc. would be fighting the wars, not the American people. 

True but I think there was a subliminal message in the verbiage. Guns aimed at her face=Cheney's father, Dick, shot his hunting partner in the face. Nine rifle barrels=cats have Nine lives & this in reference to Liz Cheney's political life being over. 

Trump was saying that instead of sending our people to fight wars, the war mongers like Liz Cheney, etc. should be made to fight the wars. If this had happened years ago, the US would not be sending our people to fight and die in endless wars.

That's logical Grey, but is there a deeper meaning here as well with the verbiage he used? 

Trump meant that Cheney, etc. would be fighting the wars, not the American people. 

True but I think there was a subliminal message in the verbiage. Guns aimed at her face=Cheney's father, Dick, shot his hunting partner in the face. Nine rifle barrels=cats have Nine lives & this in reference to Liz Cheney's political life being over. 

It is possible, but in war the enemy will have their guns pointed at her and the others. 

If that was the hidden message we can be sure didn't come up with it himself, far too sophisticated for him. 

The Conservatives have a new leader today - a black woman, 44 year old Kemi Badenoch. She was born in London to Nigerian parents. Her birth name was Olukemi Olufunto Adegoke, she married Hamish Badenoch in 2012 and is known simply as Kemi Badenoch. 

Surprisingly Right Wing for a black woman who are usually raving Lefties. She entered Parliament in 2017 and served as a Minister under two Prime Ministers from 2022 until the Election defeat this summer. it remains to be seen whether this lurch to the Right will benefit the Tories after their huge defeat in July. She's got five years to make an impact anyway. 

If she stays on and Labour do so badly that they're kicked out in 2029 she could be our next Prime Minister. 

After Trump (if he wins) has ended the war in Ukraine "on day one" he'll end inflation. Is anyone beyond the deluded Trumpanzees buying this crap. 

After Trump (if he wins) has ended the war in Ukraine "on day one" he'll end inflation. Is anyone beyond the deluded Trumpanzees buying this crap. 

So we can safely say you want Cumala to win then?

In case you over there are fed up with the Election I'll go into the remarkable events over here a century ago involving our.................err Election.

First the background. The Conservative government of Stanley Baldwin won the General Election in December 1923, but lost its majority; they emerged with 258 seats, Labour 191 and the Liberals 158. Labour and the Liberals got together to vote out the Tories in a confidence vote planned for January after the Christmas/New Year recess. And accordingly Baldwin fell in January 1924. 

The Liberal leader Asquith had a devious plan; as the second largest party MacDonald's Labour would be asked by the King to form the next government, Asquith agreed to support it and so on 22 January 1924 we had our first Labour government. 

Asquith guessed that a minority Labour administration would quickly mess things up and that Prime Minister MacDonald would not call a third Election in two years (the first was in November 1922, then December 1923) and that the King would call upon either himself or Baldwin to form a new government, if it was himself then perfect, if it was Baldwin the King chose then the Liberals would enter into a coalition and insist on Cabinet posts and a strong hand in matters.

Asquith waited most of the year until he struck, a vote of confidence was called, the Liberals dropped their support for MacDonald and Labour lost. However much to Asquith's surprise MacDonald DID call a third Election set for 29 October. 

Any chance Labour had of winning was lost in the week before the vote when the Zinoviev Letter was published in the Daily Mail. This was supposedly a document drawn up by the Soviet Chairman of Comintern Grigory Zinoviev sponsoring anti-government agitation in the Election to secure a Labour victory. The document was a hoax (who wrote it has never been fully explained) but it was accepted as genuine at the time.

At the Election the Conservatives won comfortably; 412 seats a majority of 104, Labour totalled 118 (down 40) but the real losers were the duplicitous Asquith and the Liberals - a mere 40 seats (down 151). Baldwin took over as Prime Minister just ten months after being forced out.      

After Trump (if he wins) has ended the war in Ukraine "on day one" he'll end inflation. Is anyone beyond the deluded Trumpanzees buying this crap. 

So we can safely say you want Cumala to win then?

If I was a voter I'd stay out, nether candidate is worthy of the position. Or I'd find a third person to issue a protest vote for. 

I rather hope he goes on for a few years yet, if he goes now his likely successor is the Red Queen Angela Raynor who's more of a Leftie than he is. Better the devil we know.  

I don't want to hear anything more about covid, it's bad enough watching repeats on TV from three or four years ago with folk wearing masks, horrible reminders of the time when the world lost its collective mind. 

It'll soon be over..............but wait it won't though as whoever loses will claim fraud and cheating and it'll rumble on for months, peacefully if you're lucky. That's the danger of a close election with divisiveness at fever pitch. Over here although many were disappointed with the result we knew it was coming, over there no-one can call it for sure.

More like the opposite I'd say. A Trump victory will lead to violence from those who say God wanted Trump to win therefore it has to be no matter what it takes. Just look at 2016, no mass public unrest, some protests to be sure but nothing on the scale of the Trumpanzees on 6 January 2021, they're the real danger. 

More like the opposite I'd say. A Trump victory will lead to violence from those who say God wanted Trump to win therefore it has to be no matter what it takes. Just look at 2016, no mass public unrest, some protests to be sure but nothing on the scale of the Trumpanzees on 6 January 2021, they're the real danger. 

The Democrats were behind the violence.

I hereby christen you a fully fledged deluded Trumpanzee class one with this ridiculous adoration of St Donald of the Trump.