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Date Posted:2025-01-01 09:07:45Copy HTML

1 January 1136 - The Battle of Llwchwr.

The Norman invasion of Wales following their conquest of England was a much more prolonged process taking 30 years before the Welsh Princes accepted the Norman King of England as Overlord whilst retaining a measure of local independence. Nevertheless Norman control was patchy with the Welsh taking every opportunity to rebel against the Norman-English.

One such opportunity came with the death of Henry I in December 1135 and the disputed succession. With the English distracted the Welsh under the Lord of Brycheiniog, Hywel ap Maredudd set about raiding Norman settlements in south Wales. The Normans sent a small army to tackle what they expected to be a band of lawless raiders. The two forces met at Llwchwr west of Swansea. 

Details are scarce, even the name of the Norman commander is unknown, but the Welsh were victorious killing around 500 Normans. The victory emboldened the Welsh into further rebellion which paused Norman expansion into Wales for 30 years. 

A stone marks the battlefield today.

Battle of Gower (or Llwchwr) 1136

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Date Posted:2025-02-02 02:18:12Copy HTML

Well, it must have had significant influence on the colonies. There are both a Lancaster & Yorkshire within 50 miles of my estate.
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Lancaster is the red rose county and Yorkshire is white.  I believe it was Henry Vlll who amalgamated them into the Rose we see today, The Tudor Rose. Whenever they face each other in  any endeavour whatsoever the battle is still known as the war of the Roses ,even today.
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Just keep shipping the cuddly, hard working, vital economic resource, back home with a warning. New York is one of the main problems, it’s a total basket case. But nothing a million more illegals couldn’t fix eh Pete? Have you taken one in yet

No but Britain has by the thousands, right Art?


Too right Pete, only changed the thousands for millions.

Geez I will need my calculator for those numbers. Might have to get Trump to build you a fence Art. Hope you have had one built around your house and up graded your security system. Might to be able to write some of the cost off at tax time.

I don’t need a fence Pete as my little part of the world is disgustingly Anglo Saxon. I have no alarm on my house and never had a reason to. We have such subversive clubs as the knitting and crocheting club. The dog trainers and walkers club. Choirs, gardening clubs, the veggie club is very popular. When I take my dog out in the morning it can take an hour because every other dog owner stops for a chat and to pass on the latest news. The only excitement we get is when some lunatic comes flying up the lane at night, pissed up, and goes through a hedge and gets stuck in a field.


C.mon Art, don't try to pass yourself off as some kind of mundane Canuck. Tell us about pub nights. Or are you a day drinker?

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I've carried the white rose banner for a long time.  On the other hand, Margaret of Anjou's determination to see her son made king did make me admire her a bit, so I did like it when Henry VII married Elizabeth of York.  I'm still a traditionalist, but my white rose gets pinked up now and again.
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Just keep shipping the cuddly, hard working, vital economic resource, back home with a warning. New York is one of the main problems, it’s a total basket case. But nothing a million more illegals couldn’t fix eh Pete? Have you taken one in yet

No but Britain has by the thousands, right Art?


Too right Pete, only changed the thousands for millions.

Geez I will need my calculator for those numbers. Might have to get Trump to build you a fence Art. Hope you have had one built around your house and up graded your security system. Might to be able to write some of the cost off at tax time.

I don’t need a fence Pete as my little part of the world is disgustingly Anglo Saxon. I have no alarm on my house and never had a reason to. We have such subversive clubs as the knitting and crocheting club. The dog trainers and walkers club. Choirs, gardening clubs, the veggie club is very popular. When I take my dog out in the morning it can take an hour because every other dog owner stops for a chat and to pass on the latest news. The only excitement we get is when some lunatic comes flying up the lane at night, pissed up, and goes through a hedge and gets stuck in a field.


C.mon Art, don't try to pass yourself off as some kind of mundane Canuck. Tell us about pub nights. Or are you a day drinker?


The very first time I ever came across daytime drinkers was in Canada, very strange.

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Date Posted:2025-02-03 09:04:15Copy HTML

3 February 1646 - The Surrender of Chester. 

The city of Chester on England's Irish Sea coast was held for the King throughout the Civil War. As towns and cities fell to the Parliamentarians Chester held out becoming the only port remaining in Royalist hands, vital in that King Charles was hoping for troops from Ireland to come to his rescue with Chester the only place suitable for a large scale landing.

From September 1645 Chester was under siege having survived several earlier attempts at assault. It held out for most of the winter but starvation and disease took its toll and on 3 February 1646 the commander John, Baron Byron surrendered. With all hope of salvation gone with the city King Charles himself surrendered three months later. 

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4 February 1884 - The Battle of El Teb. 

The first of two battles fought at El Teb in four weeks.

By the beginning of 1884 much of Sudan had fallen under the control of the Mahdists. The Red Sea ports of Suakin and Trinkitat remained in British hands as did the two inland towns of Tokar and Sinkat. With few British troops to spare the commander in Suakin Col. Valentine Baker raised an army of Egyptians who travelled by sea south to the port of Trinkitat for a march inland to the relief of Tokar. His force of 3200 Egyptians with British officers and gun crews got as far as El Teb where they were attacked by 1000 dervishes.

The result was all but a massacre, the Egyptians broke and fled in panic at the first enemy charge. The few Europeans who put up a resistance were killed. Baker with less than 1000 of his men made it safely back to Trinkitat.  

Tokar and Sinkat surrendered a few days later.  

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Another scenario where the British use darkies controlled by white officers. The usual result is the darkies flee & the battle is lost, the British regroup & take the objective at a later date. Or negotiate & settle for a lesser deal & occupy with a token presence with a governor type & then hundreds of years later grant independence & welcome them into a Dominion.
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Date Posted:2025-02-04 01:24:47Copy HTML

Your first suggestion is the correct one, I'll cover it when the time comes at the end of the month, for now we'll call it Baker's Revenge. 

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Date Posted:2025-02-04 01:41:27Copy HTML

Mark, only the first one is correct? I have disappointed myself again. It has become a much more frequent occurrence as of late.
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It’s all down hill now Mark
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5 February 1810 - The Siege of Cádiz began.

In 1808 Napoleon engineered the abdication of the King of Spain Ferdinand VII and placed his own brother Joseph Bonaparte on the Throne. British and Portuguese troops prevented the French from fully occupying the country with the southern port of Cádiz becoming the capital of Bourbon Spain with Francisco Castaños as Regent for the absent King Ferdinand a prisoner in France.

The French laid siege to the city in February 1810 deploying the largest cannon in the world capable of firing a shell up to three miles. However the terrain proved difficult for the French plus supply difficulties with convoys under frequent attack from Spanish partisans resulted in the siege settling into containment rather than attack. 

In 1811 British reinforcements arrived but an attempt to break out failed. Sporadic activity continued until August 1812 when the French were forced to abandon the siege after defeats elsewhere in the peninsula threatened their position. 

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What is the difference between a siege & containment?
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Date Posted:2025-02-05 01:57:09Copy HTML

If you put a place under siege your intention is to capture the place. Containment is to keep something within the limits set
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The French wanted to take Cádiz, but after failing to do so after a year their numbers were reduced as pressure elsewhere forced them to redeploy. In the end it amounted to simply keeping the place surrounded rather than risking a full scale assault.   

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OK, so with containment food & other necessities would be allowed in, until a satisfactory agreement is reached?
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1935 British leaders wanted a "death ray" to shoot down enemy planes, so physicist Robert Watson-Watt went to work on it. He failed, but his mistake turned into the invention of radar which enabled the Brits to build what they called "Chain-Home" which was a series of radar stations, coupled with ground observers, linked to fighter command. This enabled the Brits to win the Battle of Britain & defeat the Luftwaffe who had twice the numbers of planes of the RAF.
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OK, so with containment food & other necessities would be allowed in, until a satisfactory agreement is reached?

Oh no, it was still technically a siege but lacking the ability to force a surrender or mount as assault the French simply kept the place surrounded and lobbed in a few shells every now and then. It could still be supplied by sea as it was with the reinforcements arriving in 1811, the French navy was not up to keeping the Royal Navy away. 

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OK, basically the same with a containment meaning a blockade without the capacity to eventually take it over like the Alamo, which would have been a siege.
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Date Posted:2025-02-06 08:30:49Copy HTML

Yes, just my choice of words. 

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6 February 1806 - The Battle of San Domingo.

In December 1805, two months after the defeat at Trafalgar, two squadrons of French warships uninvolved in the October action sailed from Brest with the aim of disrupting British trans-Atlantic trade. One squadron of eight ships under Admiral de Leissègues headed for the Caribbean arriving at San Domingo in Hispaniola in January. Meanwhile a British squadron of nine under Admiral Duckworth arrived in the area unaware that the French were not too far away. Joined by two ships already in the Caribbean news reached them that the French were at anchor undergoing repair and resupply at San Domingo. 

When the British appeared de Leissègues was still ashore and had to be ferried to his flagship in a small boat after the action had begun. Unprepared for battle the French attempted to escape but were overwhelmed by Duckworth. None of the five large warships got away, two were driven aground and wrecked with the remaining three captured and hundreds killed, only the three smaller vessels got away. The British lost 74 killed.

It was the last major sea battle of the Napoleonic Wars.   

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Just keep shipping the cuddly, hard working, vital economic resource, back home with a warning. New York is one of the main problems, it’s a total basket case. But nothing a million more illegals couldn’t fix eh Pete? Have you taken one in yet

No but Britain has by the thousands, right Art?


Too right Pete, only changed the thousands for millions.

Geez I will need my calculator for those numbers. Might have to get Trump to build you a fence Art. Hope you have had one built around your house and up graded your security system. Might to be able to write some of the cost off at tax time.

I don’t need a fence Pete as my little part of the world is disgustingly Anglo Saxon. I have no alarm on my house and never had a reason to. We have such subversive clubs as the knitting and crocheting club. The dog trainers and walkers club. Choirs, gardening clubs, the veggie club is very popular. When I take my dog out in the morning it can take an hour because every other dog owner stops for a chat and to pass on the latest news. The only excitement we get is when some lunatic comes flying up the lane at night, pissed up, and goes through a hedge and gets stuck in a field.


C.mon Art, don't try to pass yourself off as some kind of mundane Canuck. Tell us about pub nights. Or are you a day drinker?


The very first time I ever came across daytime drinkers was in Canada, very strange.


Your maybe able to pass that bull off on the Americans but most Brits can't make it past noon before bending their arm. 

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Not so Pete. Pub culture has changed dramatically over the last thirty or more years and the main change is food. I know of only two pubs that don’t sell food and both are privately owned. Brits have never been a nation of daytime drinkers. It’s changed now because of food and it’s sad to say that without the sale of food many would go under. They make more out of food than beer. When I first got to Canada in around 85 I was shocked to see everyone drank at home, something almost unheard of here back then. You want a pint, go to the pub. Pubs were not just places you had a drink, they were the centre of social life. Football teams, darts teams, bowls teams cards, although many banned it because it caused too much trouble. Dog clubs. Makes me wonder now. I hardly drink at home, unless I have friends around. No Pete, the home .booze culture was unheard of here back then. In Canada must have been going for 70 or more years at least
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Reading a piece about pub culture on another site. During WWII a group of Black U.S. soldiers were drinking in an English Pub. The M.P.'s were called for some reason, maybe dancing with white women. When they arrived, the locals sided with the Blacks. Imagine that? Maybe it was the $ they spent drinking, eh?
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Date Posted:2025-02-06 03:06:22Copy HTML

I think it was somewhere in Lancashire? 

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